I think it started around the time Martin left.
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I think it started around the time Martin left.
well this is a turn of events,
the top 2 most respected people stab everyone on ATF in the back,
and lose all respect after that.
that, personally, is the worst way to go,
you cant go any worse way.
when i found APH, i found all these hacks by Martin and i thought he was the greatest,
then i came on here and found out that he stole hacks and that made me lose some of my respect for him,
then i met ShadowHaunter, lets just say he wasnt my favorite staff member.
then i gained respect for him,
and now i have lost all of it for both of them.
It certainly did. But hey, look at the positive side. We got new hackers like leverage419 and superdragonfruit. We don't need Martin that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by asd123
So is anyone going to update the time-line?
He seems like a decent reasonable guy when I talked to him last night. He started to get paid for his hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxSharpfirexx
As he told me, he started having financial issues so he transferred for something else.
He even got demoted before that so it kinda pushed him.
Don't talk like that for people that are not here. He did have a reason according to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by weatherdog
Can he express his feeling it's not like he is saying "I hate martin and I used to think he was cool". But anyways were getting off-topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by greezmaster
You know in one year every single mod has either been demoted promoted or banned
Well 2011 is just starting we'll see what we can make out of this
It's also a coincedience that this is happening almost one year after when i joined atf
But i don't blame martin for leaving for money to be paid
I mean people would always work for money rather than work for free plus he's at the age where he can earn money part-time
I'm just saying
Though getting shadowhaunter as a spy o.0 what were the benefits anyway
And neither did I. As I pointed out quite clearly in my original post this was never about him working for the competitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by mapleRT
So please do not confuse the two issues here. The fact is Martin never got paid to try and turn our admin into a spy for him, or turn Shadow into a spy for him. Martin did this completely of his own accord. Not for pay. Martin could have quietly left and enjoyed his new job. We all know that's what a decent person would have done. Instead he decided to stab a knife in the back of the community as he walked out the door. He did not need to do this. He was not asked to do this. It was not part of his new job. It was what he felt like doing and decided to himself. That speaks volumes about someone's character to me. If you can still respect someone after they put a knife to the back of the community they spent so much time with, then that's your right. But quite frankly, I don't understand how you could still respect someone after that. I lost all respect for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xnite
i think martin was lying when he said he was having financial troubles, just a few weeks after he went to them. He told me he was buying a 200 dollar head set
The man hacks fast,
and at some money a hack he coulda been a millionaire if his boss didnt run out of money... oops was that a secret?
Anyways i knew this was gonna happen