The death of a forum

I want to express an opinion. And I want to hear your opinions as well. It'll be fun.

This forum has died. I know you all know that. We have a small community of active posters, over-populated staff, and hardly any new posts being posted. The trolls surf this wasteland, destroying any topic of relative importance. ATF used to be a nice community of friendly people, and I believe that's what made us approachable. Now that most of us have left, all that's left is a group of attackers (with a few people as exceptions), making newcomers feel unsafe. Yes, I'll admit that I got in on the fun, but I never took it to extremes.

I also feel like the staff can't stop it either. What could they do? Sure, they could ban the remainder of people here, but that would be the last signs of activity left on this forum, dispersed in 10 minutes. And you would think with all the staff that we have, it wouldn't be just Joel and Sub trying to keep it regulated. We need to get back out attitudes from the old days, where we were nice and greeted everyone with a sense of justice, but also with acceptance.

Now that I'm done with the users, I'll turn my attention to the staff. I also think you are to blame for the decrease of activity in the forum. People come here to learn to hack games that they want to play. APH has a link for that specific topic. But staff is so paranoid that everyone will learn their secrets, that they made almost everything staff-only. I could understand button and key hacking, but when you started to make more things staff-only, I realized what would happen eventually. People want to hack games that they play, which in today's times is pretty much all AS3. Staff wants to keep all information about that subject secret, which causes people to look elsewhere for the information. And once they find the forum (we all know where it is too), they register there, and become active on that forum. Leaving this forum to it's primitive state. APH used to have a lot of contributors, which is why ATF was so popular, but when staff took over all the hacking, users found that the forum wasn't anything special, and that the awesome community it used to have had vanished due to it.

[color=#FF0000]tl;dr[/color]
Users need to stop being so trollish, staff needs to be more active moderating, and staff needs to stop being so paranoid about hacking.

P.S. The competitor that you are competing against has AS3 tutorials, and they will eventually beat you because of your paranoia. Fix it.

Hacking AS3 is now a staff secret?!?

HUH

That was a good post to read. I hope we can improve our forum before it becomes a wasteland of trolls.

They won't realize that.
If I was getting paid to hack and it all went well for over a year now I wouldn't really give a single f*ck about this forum not being active.
That's why this topic will most likely get locked after the 5th post.

Just let it die Jeremy, you have Fakku after all.

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Originally Posted by superdragonfruit

Hacking AS3 is now a staff secret?!?

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I don't know if you were here during the time, but Zucker used to have an AS3 Hex Hacking tutorial, that has since been moved to the staff forums.

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Originally Posted by greezmaster

They won't realize that.
If I was getting paid to hack and it all went well for over a year now I wouldn't really give a single f*ck about this forum not being active.
That's why this topic will most likely get locked after the 5th post.

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Which asks the question, what happens when this group of hackers leave? Will hacking be reopened to the public, or will they just replace the retired-hackers with a select group of controllable people?

I hope it's the first choice.

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Originally Posted by Kody

what happens when this group of hackers leave?

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They won't. As I said, if I was being paid by just sitting on a chair and changing some code every now and then it wouldn't seem like something I would quit.

And yeah man, I am a long-time-reader and I remember those times when staff and users got along together trying to struggle through hacking games.
It was so much fun. But thesedays, it's all about money and business. So yeah.

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Originally Posted by Kody

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Originally Posted by superdragonfruit

Hacking AS3 is now a staff secret?!?

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I don't know if you were here during the time, but Zucker used to have an AS3 Hex Hacking tutorial, that has since been moved to the staff forums.

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How do you think I learned to hack AS3? :P

That's ridiculous.

1. HxD
2. Sothink SWF Decompiler
3. SWF decompressor

Decompress SWF. Look up variables in Sothink. Edit variables in HxD with corresponding bytes.

Umadstaff?

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Originally Posted by Kody

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Originally Posted by superdragonfruit

Hacking AS3 is now a staff secret?!?

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I don't know if you were here during the time, but Zucker used to have an AS3 Hex Hacking tutorial, that has since been moved to the staff forums.

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its not there anymore
its on another forum that they use

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Originally Posted by Kody

Now that I'm done with the users, I'll turn my attention to the staff. I also think you are to blame for the decrease of activity in the forum. People come here to learn to hack games that they want to play. APH has a link for that specific topic. But staff is so paranoid that everyone will learn their secrets, that they made almost everything staff-only. I could understand button and key hacking, but when you started to make more things staff-only, I realized what would happen eventually. People want to hack games that they play, which in today's times is pretty much all AS3. Staff wants to keep all information about that subject secret, which causes people to look elsewhere for the information. And once they find the forum (we all know where it is too), they register there, and become active on that forum. Leaving this forum to it's primitive state. APH used to have a lot of contributors, which is why ATF was so popular, but when staff took over all the hacking, users found that the forum wasn't anything special, and that the awesome community it used to have had vanished due to it.

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i have them figured out

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Originally Posted by Kody

[color=#FF0000]tl;dr[/color]
Users need to stop being so trollish, staff needs to be more active moderating, and staff needs to stop being so paranoid about hacking.

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:l ok ill chill

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Originally Posted by NothingPersonal

1. HxD
2. Sothink SWF Decompiler
3. SWF decompressor

Decompress SWF. Look up variables in Sothink. Edit variables in HxD with corresponding bytes.

Umadstaff?

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hahaha

The reason we keep so much stuff staff only is because we are the only site that knows how to do that stuff, like the hack bars you are seeing on our games now.

As for AS3 hacking, i will talk to Xnite about having the main tutorial by zucker put back out and any other information that well known to alot of sites but i cannot promise anything

Over populated staff: Ya i do kinda do agree with that, but with the trolls we really need at least one staff member on at all times to help keep things normal and regulated, which brings up another thing

The trolls, i agree, right now they are pretty much our entire community, and every time i see one of the posts i resist the urge to just ban them. but there is no solid reason to and then the community would be completely dead. Most of the trolls used to be helpful members of the community and some used to be staff. They are part of the reason people either do not register or register and do not stay. I have been and will be working hard to try to fix this forum, but it will be hard. if the old respected members of this forum who have turned troll do not want to see this forum die, then help me. Stop trolling start contributing again.

I have 3 months left before i leave this forum and start boot camp. I want to leave it the way i first started here. A helpful open community that i looked forward to going onto everyday. I used to love this forum, i still do, thats why i am still here. i want to fix it and put things back to the way there were at least a year ago.