The death of a forum

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Originally Posted by Xnite

We will be moving the forum over to APH at some time in the near future.

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I guess this means that the board will be on the APH site and not that it will be completely merged. Merging it would mean that APH and the board would only need one account. A complete merge would be even better but that could be hard for several reasons. It would also be nice to add the possibility to add games that are not Flash to APH. This combined with the creation of Games/Programs in Flash/Java/Unity3D/C/C++ could attract people and keep them here without the need for too advanced hacking tutorials.

Oh and people please keep your personal fights in PMs if you really need to do it:

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Originally Posted by XxDarknessAngelxX

what did i start?

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This:

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Originally Posted by XxDarknessAngelxX

want a cookie? [im sorry i couldn't help it]

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Originally Posted by spiderkid12

So no hackers have anything to do with this site? Mkay.

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No, he said most people had nothing to do with getting a reward.

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Originally Posted by spiderkid12

You can tell the truth sometimes, but you tend to troll the other times.

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That does not mean you have to do the same every time!

i recently started to hack flash games again whether as2 or 3 but very limited for as3 because of what little i remember of bytecodes and all that from ZuckeRs tut a long time ago. if you start putting tuts back and/or making new ones about small staff secrets i'll happily come back to hacking on this forum again.

EDIT: joel i apologize for that one drawing you asked for that picture just seemed to fit right there....

Okay... thank you Kody for starting this discussion. In your original post, you said:

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Originally Posted by Kody

And you would think with all the staff that we have, it wouldn't be just Joel and Sub trying to keep it regulated.

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You mean me with Sub?

Anyhow, I know this community is dying and trust me, I've had thought of coming back and start hacking again. It's just I'm not ready for that yet. The only reason I might come back earlier than I planned is if this community is in 'danger'. Personally, I think that moment is getting near. We/you must do something before it's too late. And yes, I know I sound like a sentimental old fool, but this is just the way it is. We can't just wait until Xnite decides to just shut this whole forum down (doom scenario).

I just don't know what to say anymore.

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Originally Posted by Sublimity

Anyhow, I know this community... -other sh*t that i don't bother reading-

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Excuse me, but what community? I thought this was a business. Seriously, what this place has become is rotten. It used to be open community where everyone supported and helped each other, now everyone's trying to get every little penny they can get through hacking boring and useless games that lag your browser like a crappy DS emulator. But it doesn't matter. Whatever is rotten eventually dies.

That mind sound harsh to most people here, but sadly it's true.
I don't even get Sub's point, I mean Xnite was clear and we all concluded it used to be something, and now it's just a business.

So why

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Originally Posted by Sublimity

I might come back earlier than I planned is if this community is in 'danger'.

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I mean there are other sites (not just your competitor, relax) that pay for these things.

And that's what I'm trying to explain this whole time. See how people are so attached to this forum? It's because it was more than a forum. Now it's just business. I personally find it a big waste of time uploading games for free. Otherwise if I was paid I would. I would even show these guys what kind of flaws their hackbar has.
Now I understand how some people are like "it's my hobby and I have fun so yeah" but I will just throw this Joker's quote here.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_muBQl8yh4Q...jokerquote.jpg

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Originally Posted by greezmaster

That mind sound harsh to most people here, but sadly it's true.
I don't even get Sub's point, I mean Xnite was clear and we all concluded it used to be something, and now it's just a business.

So why

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Originally Posted by Sublimity

I might come back earlier than I planned is if this community is in 'danger'.

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I mean there are other sites (not just your competitor, relax) that pay for these things.

And that's what I'm trying to explain this whole time. See how people are so attached to this forum? It's because it was more than a forum. Now it's just business. I personally find it a big waste of time uploading games for free. Otherwise if I was paid I would. I would even show these guys what kind of flaws their hackbar has.
Now I understand how some people are like "it's my hobby and I have fun so yeah" but I will just throw this Joker's quote here.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_muBQl8yh4Q...jokerquote.jpg

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I totally get your point, but it's not as easy as you think it is. During my time as a Global Moderator we had a hell of a lot of discussions about what to publish and what not. And I know I cannot prove that, but I'm not lying. I've known Xnite for quite some time now and I know all he does these days is for you guys. And again, it might be hard to believe me, which I can understand perfectly, but please, trust me.

I have to say, what he sayed is truth. We were talking about this, but came to the point to say nothing. What Xnite sayed is truth, it became now a business. Its hard to say what we will publish. Ok, some stuff is also known by our competitors, but not by the public. When we say how to hack a game, people can do it themself and dont need hacking sites to play on them. This will hurt the business. The other reason are chinese sites. They are known to have no rules, so when we help them we dammage the developers. We wont dammage them because they are important for us. These chinese are so corrupt, they tried to bribe me, i banned him for it.

I also know the competitor who is posting this stuff. They are doing it because its not their business. They have an other one, so publishing this stuff doesnt hurt them. But it hurts us and the other competitors. When they post how to decrypt something, a new and better encryption is developed, so we need to find a way to break it. Its not hard for us, but it still costs a lot of time.

I know its hard to say what can be published or not. I would say nothing to be honest. We need to survive, so we need to choose the option which hurts us less. On the one hand, if we say how to hack, we will hurt us and the business, on the other hand we will people from the forum if we say nothing. So my opinion is to say nothing, it hurt us, but it hurt us less than saying something.

selectLOL, I completely understand. As a guy that lives off the internet, I 100% know how hard it is to keep up with standards and high expectations everyone has.
Although not saying anything will not "hurt you less" but desert this forum having no audience to deal with.

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Originally Posted by greezmaster

I mean Xnite was clear and we all concluded it used to be something, and now it's just a business.

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Originally Posted by NothingPersonal

Excuse me, but what community? I thought this was a business.

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Please don't misinterpret what I said, and use my words to spread negativity. I never said APH was only a business. It has been a business for a long time now, at least 2 years, and most of that time the community was fine. I find it surprising that some of you think a business and a community are mutually exclusive. For a direct comparison look at armorgame, kongregate or newgrounds. They are all businesses, with a community.

I was just pointing out that APH is a business as well, as some seemed to not be aware of that fact. All I was saying was why we had too make certain decisions and acknowledging why the community side of the business was dying. And this is because the community was based around the open sharing of hacking information. As I have stated, it is very unfortunate we can't be open with that any more due to the business side of things. That doesn't mean a community can't co-exist and be part of APH. There are millions of other businesses that have community's, that not only co-exist with the business, but thrive because of the business.

We just need to work out and grow the community based around something other then the sharing of hacking information.

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Originally Posted by selectLOL

I have to say, what he sayed is truth. We were talking about this, but came to the point to say nothing. What Xnite sayed is truth, it became now a business. Its hard to say what we will publish. Ok, some stuff is also known by our competitors, but not by the public. When we say how to hack a game, people can do it themself and dont need hacking sites to play on them. This will hurt the business. The other reason are chinese sites. They are known to have no rules, so when we help them we dammage the developers. We wont dammage them because they are important for us. These chinese are so corrupt, they tried to bribe me, i banned him for it.

I also know the competitor who is posting this stuff. They are doing it because its not their business. They have an other one, so publishing this stuff doesnt hurt them. But it hurts us and the other competitors. When they post how to decrypt something, a new and better encryption is developed, so we need to find a way to break it. Its not hard for us, but it still costs a lot of time.

I know its hard to say what can be published or not. I would say nothing to be honest. We need to survive, so we need to choose the option which hurts us less. On the one hand, if we say how to hack, we will hurt us and the business, on the other hand we will people from the forum if we say nothing. So my opinion is to say nothing, it hurt us, but it hurt us less than saying something.

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i remember that

all and all
cant we both be a business and community?
also xnite i may have an idea on what your saying :l